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to be the new secretary of state. keeping his promise, italian prime minister mario monti steps down. could silvio berlusconi make a comeback? and apocalypse not. we're all still here. >> america's powerful gun lobby wants armed guards at every school in the u.s. the national rifle association came a week after 20 young children and six duments were killed. >> 26 bell tolls for the moment the shooting happened a week ago. washington, d.c. protestorses toled with security outside the national rifle association event. inside two protestors disrupted proceedings twice. the n.r.a. is a powerful lobby inner the constitutional rights to bear arms. n.r.a. speakers marked the start of a serious national conversation to prevent school shootings. their main idea, more guns in schools. >> the only way -- the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and informsed in a plan of absolutely protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> the n.r.a. is launching a national school shield program to work with schools to beef up secur
of suspense, mario monti said he will not run for reelection. but he could lead of future italian government. and the head of the u.s. gold lobby goes on -- the u.s. gun lobby goes on television to defend his position that guns should be in every school. and trouble in south africa. hello there. welcome to the program. all they were trying to do was buy bread. it turned into a tragedy in central syria. dozens of people are reported to have died when the bakery they were queuing at was destroyed. the un envoy arrived in syria for more talks. we have this. >> panic, chaos, anger. this is the aftermath of what the opposition says was an air strike carried out by a syrian fighter jet. those killed and wounded were queueing outside a bakery. only five days ago, this area was under the control of government forces. the rebels recently opened a new battle for this section of central syria. the state still has superior firepower to the strike back. the government says it is willing to engage in dialogue, but the other side is not. >> i have general advice. time is getting short. hurry and move towar
monti has been accused oversimplifying solutions during the fiscal crisis. carolin is joining us now from rome. do we expect more of this rhetoric today? >> oh, definitely. not just today, but specifically over two months. elections will only be held probably on february 24th. we've got about two months of the silly campaigning season to follow. so yes, as you said, the verbal exchange is definitely heating up. it started with mr. monti's response criticism coming from officials about his renewed request for the prime minister post yesterday. he said this criticism was out of place. it was offensive not just for him, but also for all of the people in italy who have the freedom to vote. this morning, he did an interview with one of the channels here in italy and he said, i don't really care about this spread because the spread is based on fraud. that's the direct translation. meanwhile, if you take a look at the spread, they are moving higher again. 4.9%. italian equity markets are moving fractionally to the down side. so you've got mr. monti on the wire saying, yes, we should care ab
the fiscal cliff, lawmakers are pointing fingers and playing the blame game. >> mario monti is saying he's available to lead italy. he'll run for office in the upcoming election, but only for a party willing to push his agenda. >>> but he has competition in the form of sylvia berlusconi. he tells cnbc he feels a responsibility to run. >> feel the need to return to the political arena to prevent the country from being delivered into the hands of a leftist party. >> and the crowds are out, the stores are ringing up those sales, but u.s. shoppers may be running low on holiday spirit. and analysts say that they're spending less, as well. hi, everybody. welcome. merry christmas out there. thank you for joining us here on the show. what we're looking at today, we've got slightly quiet markets ahead of the u.s. open. what we're seeing, though, that all the markets are being called lower across the board stateside. the dow is being called a bit lower, nasdaq is being called a bit lower and the s&p 500 being called down by a bybit, as well. we saw markets coming off on friday stateside. pretty si
monti's back and forth on resignation casts uncertainty over italy's economic and political future. >> we begin the show with what has been a day of celebration for the european union. >> the three senior figures representing the eu have been in the norwegian capital, oslo, to collect the nobel peace prize. it was awarded to the 27-member bloc for six decades of promoting peace, democracy, and human rights. >> however, not everyone is happy. some have asked whether the price is justified at that time when the eu is mired in economic and financial -- the prize is justified at that time when the eu is mired in economic and financial crisis. desmond tutu says it is an organization based on military force. >> coveted award was accepted with pride by the eu's 3 president, martin schulz, herman van rompuy, and jose manuel barroso. the standing ovation they received was a rare accolade for the eu in these tough economic times. >> in light of the financial crisis that is affecting so many innocent people, we can see that the political framework in which the union is rooted is more importan
berlusconi with his polar opposite, mario monti, an academic economist who promised to balance italy's books with strict austerity measures. that's not an easy choice. the country basically deciding it would be better to live with its hard-ass stepfather even though its real father was outside revving up his alfa romeo promising to take everyone to a strip club for prosecco and waffles. (laughter) or whatever better version of waffles they have in italy. i'm sure. really? his zells is that what they do? (laughter) look at that grill pattern. it's (bleep)ing beautiful. how do they do it? everything you eat is better there. kosher hot dogs. they probably have some kind of thing that gets saysly and blub blub. anyway, italy sucked it up and got the fiscal house in better shape, everyone's glad they did what they did. almost everyone. >> one of italy's most controversial former leaders is eyeing a comeback. berlusconi says he's planning to run again. this would be his fourth term in office. >> jon: he was convicted -- (laughter). he was convicted of tax fraud six weeks ago. he was sentenced to n
previously. now, that's two months earlier. we knew that mr. monti, the technocrat prime minister was going to step down. his days were numbered, anyway. so this is just a change of the time frame. it's not a huge surprises in itself. the only surprise is the timing. markets are selling down somewhat this morning. banking stocks. but some of the economists we talked to here, they say, yes, we may see some volatility in the short-term, specifically over the next two months of campaigning because a lot of horse trading will be taking place, a lot of statements will be made which may rattle the markets, but the crux of the matter is this. if you look at opinion polls right now, as a democratic party under berlusconi, he will likely win this election. current opinion polls suggest that he will walk away with around 30%. berlusconi's party, anti-austerity, anti-german, would only walk around with around 16% of the votes. so that 16% gap will be very, very difficult to be made up just over the next two months. so that's why many people say that the earlier election date is actually positive for t
monti intends to resign. berlusconi hopes to stage a comeback. >> stormy political weather ahead for italy. suddenly, mario monti is on the way out. there will be early elections and berlusconi is reaching for power again. on the markets, there is deep unease. they're like the austerity measures and the reforms of the technocrats, mr. monti. they fear the return of politics as usual in italy. even if berlusconi is far behind in the polls, the very idea his attempt at come back has jangled nerves. >> the markets are shocked at the prospect that berlusconi would become prime minister again. he is responsible for the crisis in italy. he should enjoy his pension. the reforms have to go on. >> in this from the marketplace, there is not much enthusiasm for a return of mr. berlusconi. >> we italians need to worry, not because of the current crisis. more because this idiot berlusconi is around. i hope it's a good smashed in the face. -- i hope he gets a good smash in the face. >> but berlusconi is a formidable campaigner. he will tell people that he will ease their economic agony. he wil
that prime minister mario monti plans to resign. monti's reign will come to an end in february, following passage of the 2013 budget. the move raises political concerns over italy in the midst of the eurozone crisis. monti has been credited with keeping italy's debt crisis under control. the japanese economy has some gross domestic problems. japan's gdp has contracted two quarters in a row, signaling it has entered recession. a recent territorial dispute with the chinese government and struggles following last year's tsunami continue to hurt japan's export market. an election next week in japan could have a large effect on fiscal policy. reports say delta is close to landing a deal that will give the airline a 49% stake in virgin atlantic. bloomberg reports talks between delta and singapore airlines, which is looking to sell its stake in virgin, are advancing. the deal is estimated to cost between $300 and $500 million. it could mean a step up for delta's business, due to virgin atlantic's high volume of premium passengers. apple and google reportedly are forming a rather odd alliance. th
. berlusconi says spreads, this is really just a scam. monty says we should care about spreads. want to bring in a third opinion. let's talk about bepo grillo, founder of the five-star movement. not a political party but a movement which benefits from voters' disenchantment with mr. berlusconi and mr. monty. he agrees with mr. berlusconi on one thing. he says spreads are all just based on speculation. >> translator: the spread is completely detached from the real economy. the spread is mental hallucination created by speculation in the banking sector because half of the italian debt is owned by foreign banks. these banks try to get high rate in order to earn more. so we are a victim of banking speculation, of both foreign and domestic banks. we shall detach from the real economy. we need to stop this vicious cycle of debt that is strangling us. >> reporter: many would argue it's the right time for mario monty to leave the political scene. would you agree? >> translator: he needs to disappear. he was, as the americans say, a bluff, a bubble, a bankruptcy curator. our country went bankrupt last
monti govern. the xetra dax is lower this morning. the ftse 100, too, down about 0.2% respectively. take a look at the bond curve. spain, this will be a good proxy for now. we'll get the ten year for italy in just a second. 35.34% is the level there. u.s. benefiting from fund flows well. choppy trade across the picture here. let's look at the italian curve before we get the results later today. we are seeing green across the board, so yields dipping before that probably has more to do with the political rhetoric we're seeing especially coming from berlusconi. under 4.6% for the ten-year and on the short and two, a bit of a rally. finally, let's close taking a look at the forex. euro/dollar is weaker. and it's holding just above 1.30. and the dollar/yen, this is the one sixuan mentioned to watch. heading into japanese elections, stocks outperform adding oots .1% to 83.35 this morning. >>> south korea's central bank may be worried about factors in the economy, but the dok says the economy is stronger than it used to be. more on that next. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground fo
minister mario monti, yes, the same one that is famous from all the anti-trust things back in the -- was that the '90s? >> the '90s, yeah. >> monti announcing he'll step down before his term ends. the decision comes after the party of sylvia berlusconi withdrew support for monti's government last week. berlusconi has indicated he will run for leadership again. cnbc's carolin roth will join us from italy with the latest in a few minutes. when i was over there, i had to have the -- all the political signs translated because there's a picture of monti sitting under a beach chair drinking a drink and all the text was send monti to the beach. they already didn't like him. >> he had very high disapproval ratings. i remember last summer i had seen that somewhere. >> they want to send him to the beach. the major european averages at this hour, there they, they're all down. not great in france, but germany down about .7% and the ftse down fractionally. other news out of europe, debt tieback for from an day to receive additional buyback offers. those would be at deeply discounted pri
.s. and european markets earlier. monty said he can't leave the country after losing the support of sylvio berlusconi's party. apple stock is back around $531 a share after a leading investment firm, jeffreys, cut the future price target by $100. a leading analyst says smart phone saturation may lead to slow growth in the coming years. the new price target is $800 per share as opposed to 900. apple stock is down 25% since the record close above $700 a share in september. and the world's biggest hamburger chain, mcdonald's, saw sales increase 2.4% at restaurants open more than a year. growth was bigger than expected. breakfast items and limited time only cheddar bacon and onion sandwiches boosted sales. the stock is up 2.5% in trading yesterday. the results represent a rebound. in october mcdonald's had its first ever decline in same-store sales in nine years. back to you. >> hampton, thank you. >> back pain affects 80% of americans a at some point in their lifetime. it comes in many forms. here with ideas hon how to help is kim from boundless yoga. who did you bring? >> i brought carol. sh
of the other news we're getting out of that meeting, mario monti made a surprise appearance that we'll talk about as soon as silvia comes back. in particular, let's shift to asia and head to key elections. think in the most recent manufa worsening, meanwhile, opinion polls have been very consistent about which party is likely to become japan's next ruling party. kaori enjoji has more for this. >> japanese prime minister yoshi hikonoda is trying to keep his party in power just days before the election. it could pave the way for the return of the liberal democratic party of japan. >> japan is going to have another election due next year. and what abbe is perhaps going to do is to use the government machine as much as possible in order for the budget to be increased to sustain some of the public works because there is another critical juncture coming up because the japanese government is going to have to raise the tax rate for consumption tax. >> japanese economy is now in recession. and this is the third time sips the leaning crisis. the budget deficit is now five times larger than it was in
at a weaker pace. the planned resignation of italian prime minister mario monti weighing on the european markets this morning. he said he will step down as soon as the 2013 budget is approved. that's because berlusconi. it's been said a couple things this morning, that italy is now the problem child in europe, more than greece, more than spain. but conversely, china, if gdp is coming back, they are in what many consider to be a sweet spot. >> the numbers came out saturday for china. i think italy has been remarkably good. so this was a big game changer. italy had been a part of the good story of european recovery. now it's back. >> all to monti was never intended to be there for the long term. >> sure. >> in fact, he may be leaving a month earlier than originally planned. this should not be a surprise in the larger context. while we may mention berlusconi's name right now, he's not expected to win. >> look, we knew that monti was successful. >> it may be whoever follows him is going to roll some of the gains that he's had. so-called gains. >> that's going to cause ripples here. look, on
run by monti. berlusconi hinted he may return to politics after stepping down last year. claudia joins us in milan. a number of reports suggested this may not upset investors too much just because we were going to have elections anyway, it doesn't bring it forward a lot earlier. is that the sense that you're getting? >> yes, it doesn't really change in terms of the timing. it just gives you an idea, though, of where berlusconi stands and what the situation is like within that central right next. the pdl has made it clear that there is a serious disagreement within the party. they were set to go forward with some primaries which is what the center left did to elect their candidate. and now that berlusconi has abruptly announced that he's going back, that tells you there is a lot of tension. he's trying to define the support, enough support in order to have some say in parliament even after the elections. an apparently he probably was not able to get that within his own party. as far as the situation overall is concerned, we did see the spread go higher and there are concerns. the minute
might hear from aaron monti as to whether he intends to run as a candidate, although he's going to step aside as sort of the incumbent prime minister. ten-year spanish yields, slightly allow at 1.372%. we go to 84.48, the lowest against the dollar since april 20111. euro/dollar, 1.3159. kind of where we were at new york levels. that's where we stand right now in this european session. let's recap the trading week so far in asia. deidre has more for us in singapore. dei. >> ross, you were just talking about the yen. let me start there. it did hit a 20-month low against the u.s. dollar. that helped out u.s. equities. they hit an 8 1/2 month high after shinzo abe won the election. japanese equities, they moved inversely. the korean won is strengthening against the yen and this is putting it head to head with some of the japanese carmakers. it's causing concern about the korean carmakers because their vehicle res now becoming more expensive. so we did see some weakness there. moving on the tote greater chinese markets, the shanghai comp continued to gain. it has been on quite the rally thro
the way for elections to be held as early as february. mario monti has promised to hand in his resignation -- or had promised to hand in his resignation as soon as parliament passed a 2013 budget, which he led his -- kept his promise. he led a government of technocrats for the past year. europeans had held his economic reforms, but voters have been less impressed with his austerity measures. for more on this now, we are joined now on the phone by our correspondent. what now? >> the president will be consulting with the leaders of political parties over the next day or so. to get their advice as we head towards elections, and he is expected then to dissolve parliament and call elections february 24. that is the date people believe most likely will be the date of the vote. >> what is the move of italians right now? would berlusconi actually have any chance with voters? >> the extraordinary thing is that despite his being really comprehensively discredited in the eyes of the rest of the world, a lot of italians seem prepared to fall for his charm and his promises, and he is actually on a medi
return to india to face trilobite generated. >> italy's president is here after monti stepped down. the election will take base at the end of february. they have criticized a cog -- they have criticized its. >> we have stressed that as we're going toward a government that has not been elected, this government will have to keep them independent and separate as possible. >> italy deserves a new stage on the basis of the tough sacrifices and they have made over the past year in order to come out from the abyss of berlusconi's government. the government should be inspired by very simple rule, who has more has to give more. who has less has to give less. >> pope benedict has made a surprise visit to the jail holding his a former butler for stealing and linking his private documents. it is allowed to return to his family. >> it is the season of good will and the christian world. nowhere -- nowhere more so than the vatican. there is one of the biggest pre digit -- security breaches in living memory. he stole an elite vast numbers of private documents. pope but it made a visit to the jail
. ira, here we go. you know, monty hall, a big game show guy. now we have mario monty hall in the game of politics. can you try to explain to viewers and listeners? you know, no, i don't want to lose but i'd still take the job. tell me about it. >> he wants to be -- he wants to run the show and, you know what? when you saw berlusconi kind of backed off and actually support him now so it's like they're going to parachute him back in. he won't run and he says i don't have to because he is a life senator whatever that means but italy has its own laws as you know, probably as well as anybody. but he wants -- he'd like to continue to run the show because he feels just like mario draghi that he's been very successful and he can't let go of the reins. now i understand that. but he doesn't want to run. >> he's been very successful and he tells us about that. >> right. >> he had his july 26th surprise between him and mario draghi but in the end as you pointed out off camera he doesn't want to lose. he's not going through the process in a way where he can lose. basically if you appoint me i'll t
monti announcing he would consider seeking a second term as italian prime minister if approached by allies that are committed to actually backing his reforms. michelle caruso-cabrera joins us on set. you can see that andrew was taking some shots. >> a new camera. >> i'm so used to it wherever i go. andrew, we've got the fire behind you. >> it's summer cute. >> the sweater. >> yeah. >> but it's an orange -- i don't understand why it's orange. it's hal weeb. >> it's a red sweater. >> look at it. i know it's coming a little bit orangey. >> on tv. >> okay. >> lovely. thank you. love the guys in the control room. >> so here's italy. silvio berlusconi. your intro was about mario monti which is all true. silvio berlusconi, the former prime minister of italy -- >> my favorite. >> thank goodness for silvio berlusconi. >> look at his hair. what is he, 76? >> 76. he just sat down with cnbc italy over the weekend. silvio berlusconi says he does not want to run for prime minister, but, he is obligated to, because the country needs him so desperately. he is the only one that can bring together
for him to stay on, prime minister mario monti has said once the budget is passed, he will resign. 61% of italians are against him running for a second turn. meanwhile, sylvia berlusconi promised yesterday if he's voted back in, he'll reverse some of monti's policies. >>> in tokyo, the newly elected prime minister is meeting with the head of the central bank. also, we'll head out to frankfurt where do you have ya mark may have dodged another bullet. >>> then it's over to hong kong. aig sells its remaining stake in aia and formally ends a partnership dating back 100 years. all of that straight ahead. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express ecember 22nd for christmas delivery. >>> the latest numbers out of china, in the first 11 months, foreign investments led. investment from the u.s. did pick up. . on the equity front, the shanghai composite has been powering ahead up over 9% just this month. with external factors im
the launch seen as a boost to the credibility of north korea's new leader jim kim jong-un. monti credited with saving italy from a financial meltdown after stepping into the prime minister's role following the resignation of silvio berlusconi. monti's resignation sparked concern italy may slip back into a recession. president obama and member hers of the senate will gather today to say good-bye to
there of in europe. mario monti is stepping down as prime minister of italy. he lost support of the people. he was out in front of italy's debt crisis last year and he lowered the bar in cost. he is a smart guy. he obviously does not want to stay there. investors took heart from the latest data out of china. growth is accelerating. no more that owning our process here. almost 10%. beating analyst estimates. copper moved higher. it is an industrial metal. money flowing into stocks. minors like numa mining. then, of course, the announcement that they would be taking a big acquisition. today, it is up more than a percent. cliff natural of about 5%. we should not forget mcdonald's. better same-store sales than expected. coming up in just a few minutes. cash is king at ethan allen peered the furniture retailer throwing a lot more cash at shareholders. they are announcing a one-time payout this month alone. we will get the inside story from ethan allen chairman and ceo farooq kathwari. you have to hear about his plans for china. international expansion is a huge priority. the chinese may like that p
's happening with italian politics. of course, mario monti saying he was going to resign as italy's prime minister. that paves the way for flesh elections to be called in the beginning of next year. yesterday, we saw the negative reaction. sylvia berlusconi wants to make his return on the political scene. today, we saw a bounce back. if you can see see bind me, the bank stocks in italy rerebound, but it's only in the range of .5% to 1% of these names which were down in some cases nearly 10% yesterday. if you take a quick look at european bourses, if that's possible, down near the ftse mib, this is the one selling off somewhere in the range of 3.5% yesterday. today it's adding about .8%. in spain, showing a nice rebound. same attitude listing peripheral debt. we can take a look there. italy and spain seeing prices rise, yields falling to 4.75% and 5.75% respectively. is investor attention returning to spain? here is the thing. italy is the third biggest government debt market in the world. it's the third biggest economy in the eurozone. whatever happens with its political situation could p
in italy. >> it's an all-italian version of the european close right now, carl. mario monti, contrary to reports last week that he did not want to run for prime minister again, we now hear he's undecided, and may actually run for p.m. of the country. right now he serves technocratically. there's expected to be an election early next year, maybe in february or in march. he has told reporters that he's considering it. the cabinet member he spoke with earlier in the week said he's going to make an announcement sometime this week on television. when asked by reporters about his recent visit to the tomb of saint francis he said he did, indeed, pray there to help him make a decision about whether or not to run. a man eagerly awaiting monti's decision is silvio berlusconi, the former prime minister of italy. we're pretty sure he has not prayed at the tomb of st. francis lately. he has said that he devil wants to be run for prime minister again however at the same time he's also made noises that suggest that he wouldn't run if monti runs. that's not set in stone. we're going to see what happe
and withdrawing support from mario monti. this may lead to midterm elections because monti is market friendly you might not end up with a market friendly solution. we thought we'd have elections march/april, there's the prospect it could be a snap election much earlier perhaps in the new year. now the good news is there isn't a huge amount of blowout on the bonds at the short end of the italian markets. the yields are higher but not huge relative to where we've been but on the ten-year italian market you can see we're slightly higher but no great shakes overall. it means the rally in the peripheral bond market we've witnessed in italy and spain has now stalled at this stage. remember we had the auction in spain yesterday and the yields are slightly higher relative to where we've been, they're still relatively depressed. we talk about the problems in europe, i thought it was worth pointing out amidst all the malaise what is happening in germany today an astounding manufacturing german manufacturing orders result from germany up 3.9% in october, a phenomenal performance from german industry and it'
. the italian elections, that is. today something indications. italy's prime minister, mario monti, has postponed his end of the year press conference. dow jones reporting that delay may signal a possible delay in the budget vote. now this budget vote, of course, being the key hurdle he wanted to get through before resigning. he announced his intention to resign in the last couple of days. that clearing the way for a potential return to politics of silvio berlusconi. again, not clear exactly why the post there has -- there's been a postponement of the end of the year press conference. that is the case as we are learning this morning. >>> moving on to shares in ubs which are at the top of the smi in zurich after the bank announced a settlement with u.s., u.k., and swiss regulators over its role in the libor fixing scandal. ubs will pay a total fine of $1.5 billion after admitting to manipulating the rate. as well as pleading guilty to charges of fraud and bribing brokers. the swiss bank says the fine will lead to a greater than expected fourth quarter loss. but that it will not need to r
because spending cuts are not working out for italy's government. prime minister mario monti announced he would resign after losing support over his austerity moves. a return of political instability there reminds us that europe still faces a lot of hurdles before it comes out of its economic crisis. countries like greece, spain and italy have been tackling their problems with sharp cuts in spending and higher taxes and that's been fueling recession and unrest. meanwhile, we now know that japan officially slipped into its own recession over the summer with the japanese economy contracting 3.5% between july and september. now, the previous quarter, the previous three months number was also revised lower and that makes for two consecutive quarters of negative growth and that's the classic definition of a recession. from asia, back to america, literally, a group of chinese investors agreed today to buy an 80% stake in aig's aircraft leasing business. back in 2008, the insurance giant was bailed out by the u.s. government to the tune of $180 billion. four years on, still paying back the money
point of view on this, which is you think back to a year ago when monti gets named technocrat tick prime minister of italy, he comes out with a package two thirds tax hikes, one third tax cuts. and i remember saying do you think this will work, they're raising the v.a.t. tax and i understand italian household debt isn't that high, but they were trying to tax their way out of a massive debt problem and in fact receipts went down, consumption fell to 4.25 annualized rate and the situation got much worse. today italy has zero nominal gdp grets. and they're funding at 4.5%. that is a bad business model. spain same story. so when you bnk our package and what's been offered so are far which appears like $1.6 trillion in tax hikes against $400 billion of entitlement cuts over time, that's an even worse mix than the two-thirds/one-third european structure that really has gotten a negative reaction. >> how much is because of the mix and how much of it just this is what austerity looks like? >> is the money in capping deductions or raising marginal tax rates? it's in capping deductions. but that's
go with the resignation of mario monti. greece is higher. por sh gal is higher. spain is higher. it's a good day for -- investor sentiment.strongly it was revealed today. optimism over what the fed is going to do in the united states tomorrow. optimism there will be a deal on the fiscal cliff. you have optimism that the recapitalization of the banks is going to be delayed by another year according to the bank of italy. and you have optimism as well on mar of election promises as we now face the pros wekt of a much earlier election in italy. to that end it is fascinating. sylvia berlusconi has come out today warning about the germano center of politics. in other words, too much of a focus on what is happening from germany and the austerity inspired by angela merkel. in particular, he is drawing attention to this. which is the spread of the extra that investors demand to hold italian bonds over german bonds. i've shown this to you a couple times. over the last year it's been a mainstay of a lot of the italian business broadcasts internally. they say our bonds are currently trading so
end of the bubble. right now i can kind of picture that scene in the "monty python" movie where they're like, bring out your dead. there are companies they want to ipo. companies like hilton. you have to think, 2013, six years since they were originally purchased by the private equity sponsors. probably time for them to try, at least, to get those companies out into the public markets. there are a number of them that have tried already, like toys r us. you maybe had them on the other day. >> yesterday, in fact. >> that thing is stuck. it ain't going anywhere. those are the types of things that the private equity firms want to get out in the market. >> toy was public, went private. now we talk about it going public one day again. you put that in a group along with via of names that could go if the economy is strong enough. >> my colleague and i, we talked about this. he says if the economy is really great, then maybe these things get out there. ment but a via, a low-growth business right now, purchased at the top of the market. so many of those privately backed companies that are just
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